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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.11 14:49:00 -
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God, not this again.
I do hope CCP is factoring in the disenfranchisement of its players into the protection-of-brand decisioning with these bans. You can't market 'sandbox', 'be the villian' and 'everything is fair game' while not publishing clear definitions of harassment.
Should I expect a ban anytime soon for this, because the victim raged so hard and was obviously in real life dispair?
Seriously, will that dude using racial epithets and counselling me to comitt suicide (twice) be banned?
I would like to register my angst at being harassed by this player, and am seeking space lawyer assistance from someone on the CSM willing to fill Ripard Teg's shoes in my quest for justice.
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
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Posted - 2014.09.11 15:36:00 -
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The information we have so far from Ero on this latest round of bans is very disconcerting.
We will update as more information becomes available.
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
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Posted - 2014.09.11 16:19:00 -
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"...Gankers have been banned that have done nothing but gank. Faction Warfare players have been banned and no one knows why. Random nullsec guys have been banned. We don't know why. Even at least one carebear has been banned who didn't do a damn thing to anybody other than enjoy the company of some of the others banned...." -- Erotica 1
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
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Posted - 2014.09.11 21:16:00 -
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My concern remains that there is feedback that this round of bans included guilt-by-association bans, and possible overreach by CCP.
How can we judge, when all CCP is effectively saying here is 'cant talk about it' and 'trust us', in a vacuum.
I raised these concerns before, and this episode only amplifies them. Having a bunch of pansies who never understood "HTFU" and never will applauding like trained seals is of little comfort.
Also, where are our CSM on this? Where are our 'guardians of the sandbox'? CSM...meh. More trained seals?
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
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Posted - 2014.09.12 14:48:00 -
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Updated (at bottom), with more info from someone close to the bans.
Leave him questions, you might get a response.
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
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Posted - 2014.09.12 17:34:00 -
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Hai space lawyer!
Please contrast your above links with the following ones...
This.
This
and recently...
This.
I welcome your insights on how 'common sense' can be uniformly applied by the multitude of players in the 'sandbox' to make the right call on grey areas, when CCP marketing and CCP banhammer aren't even evidently on the same page?
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
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Posted - 2014.09.12 17:51:00 -
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evepal wrote:Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:Hai space lawyer! Please contrast your above links with the following ones... This. Thisand recently... This. I welcome your insights on how 'common sense' can be uniformly applied by the multitude of players in the 'sandbox' to make the right call on grey areas, when CCP marketing and CCP banhammer aren't even evidently on the same page? F Quite easily. Those refer to in game actions, made possible by game mechanics. No one here has been banned for in game villainy. As the original post quite clearly states "Real Life Harassment", which is in line with the harassment policy posted above. ... What about no actions? What about guilt-by-association bans? How does evidence that occurred contrast with the above links? If you are cool with those, you missed a key link to the communist manifesto...
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
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Posted - 2014.09.12 20:29:00 -
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1) Where is the CSM on fighting on behalf of the players banned (and the community) to ensure guilt-by-association bans were not done as some are claiming occurred? Prove to me the CSM aren't just koolaid drinkers afraid to jeopardize their fanfest tickets...
2) Did any of these bans for "real life harassment" actually involve someone calling the 'victims' real-life phone, cell phone, show up at real life residence or workplace, or take place in the context of their real-life persona? OR, did it all take just place in the gaming context of EvE toons, roleplay and EvE gaming assets?
If it is truly 'real life harassment', wouldn't there be real life criminal mechanisms to pursue that? The fact that CCP doesn't just refer such cases to the legal systems and execute bans based on the outcome of those legal findings is sadly telling, IMHO...
CCP *appears* to be banning people under blanket abstractions of 'real life harassment' announcements, to give them cover for banning people they don't LIKE, while avoiding the 'trouble' of having to defend such accusations in the real world.
(The pansies of EvE then give them additional cover by nodding sagely, as they reflect perhaps on personal past-life real bullying or butthurt angst they experienced...)
The key here though is this. CCP should sack up and ban people because they don't like them or their playstyle, and call it as such. Then, accept the community reaction to that.
Be honest.
If you are going with 'real world harassment' claims though, you should sack up and prove it in the real world...IMHO. Don't want to get into the legal business? Fine, stop calling it 'real life harassment' then, and ban them because you don't like them, and let the community know that.
Done.
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